0000456: From diaspora, it seems only comments from people i know gets to Friendica

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(0000696) macgirvin (administrator) 2012-06-29 05:45 edited on: 2012-06-29 05:48	Correct. This is a fundamental difference in the design of the two services. "Social networks" became a popular means of communication after email services failed to control spam about 10 years ago. The idea of only communicating with friends developed purely as an anti-spam measure. Both Friendica and Diaspora have different models for meeting new people. The Friendica model is through forums or public groups, which can be individually blocked if they become spammy. The Diaspora model allows for unsolicited communication to anybody at any time and therefore creates a potential spam gateway. The fundamental difference in these models cannot be easily resolved and still provide application security against unsolicited communications (e.g. spam). We are currently experimenting with a "user choice" model for the Status.Net network (which has huge amounts of spam). this allows one to choose whether to accept spam on an individual basis, with the default to only allow people with relationships to communicate. If this is successful we will extend it to Diaspora messages. If it isn't we won't.

(0000697) Domovoy (reporter) 2012-06-29 06:36	I see. But sinced i choosed to make it a public post, shouldn't it implies i agree to get comments from people i don't know? Just my opinion there.

(0000698) macgirvin (administrator) 2012-06-29 06:45	That's why we're experimenting with options. If you create a public post and get 15,382 replies telling you to use Viagra what would you do? We don't want you to worry about this unless you're willing and able to delete 15,382 junk posts. A handful of people can deal with this kind of spam firehose. Most people can not.

(0000699) Domovoy (reporter) 2012-06-29 06:50	Ok, i understand, and agree. Hope you'll come to a nice solution. Maybe some kind of filter+report? Like SpamAssassin for mails? Just saying, a way to see posts from people i don't know is a nice way to meet some new people. Without that, i can only connect with people i already know... It's nice, but it lacks something. Still, there is this spam problem...

(0000700) macgirvin (administrator) 2012-06-29 16:11	Personally I feel it is better to not allow spam in the first place than try and clean up the mess it makes afterward, but I fully understand where you're coming from. In the meantime, you might check out the global directory for some forums to join, or feel free to create one or more of your own. This can put you in contact with other people outside your immediate circle. We have a spam filter library in the tree which needs a bit more work on the storage module before we can start using it. There has also been some work done on "moderated comments" (like for blogs). If any developers were to finish off either or both of these we could possibly add Diaspora as well as other "unknown senders" via either (or both) of these modules. Since this is an all volunteer effort, I can't easily put a timeline on when this functionality will be available.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2012-06-29 03:49	Domovoy	New Issue
2012-06-29 05:45	macgirvin	Note Added: 0000696
2012-06-29 05:48	macgirvin	Note Edited: 0000696	View Revisions
2012-06-29 06:36	Domovoy	Note Added: 0000697
2012-06-29 06:45	macgirvin	Note Added: 0000698
2012-06-29 06:50	Domovoy	Note Added: 0000699
2012-06-29 16:11	macgirvin	Note Added: 0000700
2013-04-19 05:08	fabrixxm	Status	new => closed
2013-04-19 05:08	fabrixxm	Resolution	open => won't fix

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